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Dan
Junior Member
Username: Sky_arrow

Post Number: 35
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post

This may be old news(I did a search but didn't see anything previously posted about this), but while watching the movie "Oceans 11" with Brad Pitt, George Clooney, etc., there is a scene where Clooney is in front of a large screen explaining thier grand plan for robbing the casino. While he is talking, there is a 3D animation playing on the screen and if you look closely, you will see that the animation is playing in Form Z! I had never noticed it before (probably because I had never seen the movie on a large hi-def tv until now).

Anyway, it was cool to point to the screen and tell my family that the software shown in the movie was what I used at work!
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robert smith
Senior Member
Username: Bob

Post Number: 360
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

YEP! formZ in action IN a movie!@!

Normally (from what I hear) it is just in use behind the scenes, designing sets, ships, and virtual cities, and other stuff that is then animated with "pro animation" software...

I wish ADS would promote this use. I keep hearing about a lot of great stuff from other sources -- and you would think that they would really hype this up to show what formZ can do -- but it appears that their marketing department is completely missing this opportunity.

Also, FYI -- I heard that it was used quite a bit on Pirates of the Carribean, Star Wars, Avatar, and many more. Anyone else want to add to the list and encourage ADS to promote this???
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Peder Lindbom
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Username: Peder

Post Number: 768
Registered: 04-2001


Posted on Monday, December 28, 2009 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Here is the article on the use of FZ in Pirates of the Carribean:
http://www.cgw.com/Publications/CGW/2007/Volume-30-Issue-7-July-2007-/Ship-Shape .aspx

Funny enough the Dutchman was modeled after a swedish 17th century warship -the Vasa, that sank just a kilometer or so from where I am sitting. It sailed for less than an hour on it's maiden voyage before a sudden gust of wind sank it because of it's overambitious armament and low ballast. It was rediscovered and raised from the bottom in the 60s and is now one of the major tourist attractions since it is very well preserved -shipsworm don't like the baltic sea salt balance apparently.

A sight to see, beautiful, powerful and pathetic at the same time.
http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=vasaskeppet&oe=UTF-8&um=1 &ie=UTF-8&ei=bVU5S_aWLMKD-QbDp-iuCg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4 &ved=0CCAQsAQwAw
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Robert Woodruff
Senior Member
Username: Setz

Post Number: 408
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I know for sure that Form Z was used behind the scenes on these films/TV:

John Carter of Mars (2012)
Green Lantern (2011)
Public Enemies
Eagle Eye
The Dark Knight
Transformers
Spiderman 2
Spiderman 3
Pirates of the Caribbean
Pirates of the Caribbean II
Ocean's 11
Ocean's 13
The Island
All Lit Up
Pearl Harbor
Fantastic Four
Fantastic Four II
Catwoman
Timeline
Star Trek Nemesis
Windtalkers
Chuck and Larry
Die Hard 4
Journey to the Center of the Earth
Moneyball (Scrapped)
Solaris
Swordfish
Timeline
X-Men 3

Ghost Whisperer
The Nine
Invasion
Journeyman
Pushing Daisies


r.
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robert smith
Senior Member
Username: Bob

Post Number: 362
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Robert,

Now THAT's a Sighting!! Thanks for sharing. :-)

Is there any way we can find out more about how formZ is being used in these?
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Robert Woodruff
Senior Member
Username: Setz

Post Number: 409
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Robert,

I begin all projects with concept 3D modeling. These are typically presented as printed OGL screen captures or rendered out as OGL Quicktime flybys. Sometimes I have the luxury of rendering them out. I use both the native FZ Renderer and Maxwell Renderer. Once the work has been approved, I usually draft them up for construction. The models are also used as needed for rapid prototyping and cnc work, and they are handed off to others for miniature construction, pre-vis animations, and post production CG effects work.

I do owe it to ADS to get samples of my work out to them. I promise I will get to it in the not too distant future!

Here is a Day/Night Study from the ending sequence of Public Enemies. These fašades were applied in front of existing modern storefronts adjacent to the actual Biograph Theater.

r.


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robert smith
Senior Member
Username: Bob

Post Number: 363
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Cool, Robert!

Thanks again!! :-)
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support@formZ.com
Moderator
Username: Tech

Post Number: 9946
Registered: 04-2001


Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Gentlemen,

Thank you all for sharing the information, especially Robert Woodruff, who is well known for his excellent and breakthrough work for movies. However, even his list is not quite complete and more movies come to mind (eg Cat in a Hat). As he says, maybe one of these days we'll be able to publish some of his work.

Why don't we make more noise about this usage of form.Z? We do as much as we can, but admittedly we are typically restricted and legally liable if we are perceived to have violated somebody's copyrights. Producers simply do not like their movies being mentioned by software companies and they give you the argument that they use more than one program, which is mostly true. Sometimes the artists themselves take it up to them and say this is my work, I know I used form.Z by 90%, so I'll give you my permission to spread the word. If you go back to our newsletters you will see quite a few articles about usage of f.Z in the movies, either written by the artists themselves, or interviews of the artists. And quite a few times we have introduced artists to different publications, which published articles also. One of the most recent was about the Pirates where the program was used not only for designing the ships but also for fabricating them. Well, we did get a nasty letter from a producer and had to rely on the artist to resolve the issue.

This probably gives you some idea of what we have to deal with. And it is not just us, it is all the software companies, which is why you see very few demonstrations referring to specific movies these days and when you do it is always a presentation by the artist involved.

We hope this offers enough of an explanation and, again, our thanks to Robert for his postings, and we looking forward to receiving more of his work. :-)
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Dan
Junior Member
Username: Sky_arrow

Post Number: 36
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I understand there can be a TON of legal issues and whatnot regarding the advertising of your product in relation to it's use for a movie. I guess what really impressed me about the "Oceans 11" thing was that this animation was running on screen and in the Form Z work environment - complete with toolbars, the Promts pallet, and even the name "Form Z" in the top right corner.
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support@formZ.com
Moderator
Username: Tech

Post Number: 9949
Registered: 04-2001


Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Dan,

Yes, it was exciting to see formZ in action -- instead of the typical "behind the scenes" usage!

Here's a page from our Gallery with a little info about this:

http://www.formz.com/gallery/user_pages/Troxtel_Design.html

And then there was the in.form.Z article on the Planet of the Apes:

ftp://ftp.formz.com/pub/formz/PDF_files/2002_Newsletter.pdf
and the corresponding gallery entry here:
http://www.formz.com/gallery/user_pages/Reynolds_Richard.html

And another "Hollywood" related gallery entry here:

http://www.formz.com/gallery/user_pages/Martinez_Victor.html

You may also recall this article about the Pirates of the Caribbean:

http://www.cgw.com/Publications/CGW/2007/Volume-30-Issue-7-July-2007-/Ship-Shape .aspx

And there are so many more examples that we would like to show. We will see what we can do to get permission to publish these so we can share them with our community.