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Demetrios Christopoulos
Junior Member
Username: Designeer

Post Number: 27
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2012 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

application/octet-stream
NOTwellformed.fmz (756.5 k)


Prior to NOT being able to difference any portion of my terrain, I did something that it warned me that if I proceed the terrain will not be well formed, I thought I will come back and fix it by triangulating it or object doctor or something else but I can't do it yet, any help? I attach the file.
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support@formZ.com
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Username: Tech

Post Number: 17160
Registered: 04-2001


Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Demetrios,

With the Object Doctor you can find that there are some intersecting faces at the lower left of the object:

1

You should Triangulate the object BEFORE executing the Difference so that you can properly define the non-planar faces -- and thus avoid this issue.

You should
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Demetrios Christopoulos
Junior Member
Username: Designeer

Post Number: 28
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post

You may have not finished your response and I need to keep moving on this project.

I triangulated the terrain, then check it with object doctor. Query says that terrain is still a surface and not solid yet. So how to make a solid?............

I tried an exercise you posted some time ago to delete topography (step one), etc... and everything gets deleted, can't make any progress, frustrated..........

HELP
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support@formZ.com
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Username: Tech

Post Number: 17168
Registered: 04-2001


Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Demetrios,

Sorry about the extra 2 words in our previous post. Can you attach the fmz.zip file containing the terrain and the "road" before you did the difference so we can look into this for you?
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Demetrios Christopoulos
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Username: Designeer

Post Number: 29
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I'm on an agressive "fly" to try to survive and even thrive in this challenging profession of design. I rarely stop to save enough, because clients only pay for a fraction of my time as it is, ideal things fall by the wayside these days, no need to explain further.

What is core is to understand a way to mend/repair the terrain uploaded above when I make mistakes like this. Is there no way to repair it? to make it solid again? No other files exist, I can start over but I wanted to use this as a learning opportunity, I need to move on soon though.....thanks.
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support@formZ.com
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Username: Tech

Post Number: 17172
Registered: 04-2001


Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Demetrios,

While it is better to Triangulate the object first, you can fix this object by using the Object Doctor to find the Intersecting Faces, pressing the Delete key (and in v6 choosing Delete Topology). Then get the Object Doctor tool, choose the Missing Faces option, set the Max # Edges to 12, choose the Fix option, and clicking on the object once more...
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Roman P
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Username: Teamturbo

Post Number: 369
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

You can rebuild your terrain pretty quickly using the section tool.

1) Slice through your existing model in the Z axis at 1 or 2' intervals
2) Delete the segments that form the bounding perimeter (cross select segments)
3) Use the remaining lines are essentially your topography that you can use to build a fresh model.
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Roman P
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Username: Teamturbo

Post Number: 370
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

You can rebuild your terrain pretty quickly using the section tool.

1) Slice through your existing model in the Z axis at 1 or 2' intervals
2) Delete the segments that form the bounding perimeter (cross select segments)
3) Use the remaining lines are essentially your topography that you can use to build a fresh model.
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Demetrios Christopoulos
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Username: Designeer

Post Number: 30
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I worked around the terrain problem until today and the FormZ support advice worked well, yippee :-)

I want to come back and try Roman P's advice too when I have more time, thank you all !!!
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Post Number: 17220
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Glad to help!